McNuggets and Bullsh*t - Podcast #450 Post Show

Rooster Teeth Podcast: McNuggets and Bullsh*t - Podcast #450 Post Show

Join Gus Sorola, Gavin Free, Barbara Dunkelman, and Burnie Burns as they discuss security cameras, the current state of politics, and more!

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  • BossTaylor8 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    not saying they shouldn't make this because i think they should make what they want but it wasn't my cup of tea.

  • srvvlhm FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold David Kane

    2 months ago

    This was one of the best IMO.

  • Tropes FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold I Am What I Am

    2 months ago

    You're disqualified from the conversation by being a celebrity. Ignore the fact that the president is a trash-TV star. Trumplings are pretty predictable, they'll call you weak-willed and easily triggered before freaking out if you say anything mean about their orange god. Then engage in Schroedinger's Liberal by simultaneously saying left-wing folks are easily triggered weaklings and violent, dangerous thugs. 


    Life is too short to pretend to respect Trump supporters. So I don't. I also don't respect Trump. He has permanently damaged the respect of the office of President and it will never deserve respect again because of him. And America has lost all respect on the world stage, Trump supporters, because of *you.*


    I know this comment is late, but whatever. Life is also too short to allow Trumplings to think they deserve respect.


    For the record, I like that they are getting more serious with the post-shows. It's kind of a lot more raw and personal that way where you get to know the real people and they reference the real world before Trump instigates a nuclear war by accident via twitter while on a golfing vacation.

  • ExaltedLugia FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    I honestly enjoy it when they talk about political stuff on the podcasts because its so fascinating to me when they connect what happened when they were teenagers to what is happening now today

  • Sockbum FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 months ago

    I'm a little late to the party on this one but I just wanted to say that I appreciate the "political talk" because they're not talking about it as a political subject. They're talking about it as what's happening in current events, which is part of what the RT Podcast is. They're not going out of their way to make make a statement or take a side, it's always based around something that's happening and yeah, of course they're going to have their own opinions about it. It's really not that different from them talking about current political events that happen in other nations. It's also good to point out that not everything they talk about would be considered "entertaining". I wasn't entertained when they talked about that lady being eaten by the escalator, but I was glad to hear it because it's interesting to know about.

  • Montezooma

    2 months ago

    i think the reason people get frustrated with political discussion IN content is obviously because roosterteeth is an entertainment company, and people use entertainment as a means to temporarily separate themselves from their reality. Yes, political discussion is necessary and I wholeheartedly encourage it, it's just when it comes to actual content, some people on both sides are paying for this content and merch, but they don't pay to hear differing opinions, they pay to laugh and enjoy content. Fact of the matter is, there are always going to be people who disagree with your opinions and beliefs, and believe their own opinions are right. You can state your opinions on the internet, but don't be surprised when people disagree with them. I just wish people from both sides could come together and have a discussion about how to fix things rather than screaming insults at each other. I guess that's what happens when you have to sum up your political opinions in 140 characters or less.

    That said, I don't believe these Neo Nazis are in the right in the slightest and what happened in charlottesville is tragic, but battling hate and violence with more hate and violence like Antifa isn't the way to bring people together, it just creates more divide and drives people to political extremes on both sides.

    Don't hate, educate.

  • Evv FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold KevinEverett

    2 months ago

    Its awkward that Im prime drafting age for the military. Just about to be a freshman in college. 


    I do not want to fight under Trump I am sorry, but no. I was in the JR AFROTC because when I was younger I wanted to be in the military because I did not know what future career I wanted... Forget what I want in the future. I most certainly do not want to fight under the current president. 

    • Evv FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold KevinEverett

      2 months ago

      Also Family history in the military is a big reason why I would have of joined.

  • Carnagus FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    Are these the brave anti-fascists Gus was talking about?

    https://youtu.be/qUlC7oVEtrk

    Guess someone has to fight them Nazi cars, and Nazi small businesses.
    Of course all in the name of equality, and to "stick it to the man".
    (btw I'm not from US, not even from America, my country lived through both the Nazi and communist oppression, and I condemn both ideology. Only in the west, which did not live through the socialist dictatorship (which was the way towards communism) can people glorify communist ideology.)

    • HiKingBlaze FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      You deserve that fucking ditto.

  • HiKingBlaze FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    I'm a simple man, I come for politics and comments about it.

  • jerrybronham FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    Death to Nazis and white supremacists. 

    • nickoh FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      C'mon that attitude is never going to solve problems. Not everyone of these brainwashed idiots are doomed to never see the error in the ways. 

  • aubreysux FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold The Void

    3 months ago

    Okay. So I've read a lot of the comments here (even though I probably shouldn't have). I see a lot of people upset about the idea that Nazi's/white supremacists made the orange one (I refuse to use his real name) president. But it's true. Sure, not every single supporter dons swastikas and marches around heiling Hitler, but they ignore and align themselves with people who do. During the election (I can't remember if it was the primaries or the general), the orange one refused to denounce support from David Duke, the former leader of the fucking KKK (who was also marching proudly in the orange one's name at Charlotsville). So yeah, not all 47% of orange's supporters are full-blown Nazis/white supremacists, but they'd still rather defend them over non-white, LGBT, Jewish, etc folk. 

    And before I leave, can I just say one more thing? This is a personality based podcast. There are other personality based podcasts. They are going to talk about what their beliefs are. They don't have to be fair and unbiased. They are more than entertainment for you. They are people. I'm not saying you can't disagree or voice your opinion, I'm just saying you do have to acknowledge that not everything is going to be peaches and cream for you (especially in this political climate).

    • XxHunter82xX FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Got moar javascriptz

      3 months ago

      > the orange one refused to denounce support from David Duke, the former leader of the fucking KKK 


      I hate to be "that guy" to defend the orange one, but unless we have our facts straight, it puts the rest said into doubt.  There's plenty of other real criticisms to pick from.  Using inaccurate ones only leave people vulnerable.


      He has actually on several occasions denounced David Duke and the KKK.  These instances are readily available on youtube.  I don't want to link to them because it's very likely I'd be promoting a disgusting individual.


      That said, one thing that could be argued is that he didn't do it strongly enough on the first pass on the campaign trail.  If I recall, the first time was more of a casual "ok, I denounce" or something like that.  The strong denouncements came later.


      This isn't to call anyone out, but if all sides did a better job of genuinely fact-checking people regardless of whether or not they agreed with their larger point, I think we'd be in a much better state of affairs in the western world.

    • aubreysux FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold The Void

      3 months ago

      Fair enough. Then lets talk about the weekend of Charlottsville. Where it took Fuckface Von Clownstick three whole days after the rally to say "Nazis and white supremacists are bad", only to follow it up with "but the 'alt-left' is worse!!!" - I don't need to fact check that one. We all saw that. 

    • XxHunter82xX FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Got moar javascriptz

      3 months ago

      No argument there. I just wanted to point out that one thing since it's a factual inaccuracy that continues to persist even though it's pretty easy to debunk.


      But as I said, there's plenty of true low-hanging fruit to target (just like the point you just raised).


      The sad state of affairs is that my comment currently rates at "lame" even though I was just pointing out a fact. Facts are facts, independent of opinions formed around them. If someone is a vehement Trump opponent, I think they should be even more welcoming of corrections to ensure their arguments are bulletproof. Same should go for supporters as well.


      Anyone offering raw information shouldn't be automatically treated as hostile. The information should be assessed and either accepted or a counter correction should be offered if it turns out the be inaccurate.

  • MikeyMoto FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Mike Wyant

    3 months ago

    So I don't usually write things here or anywhere else on the internet, especially about political stuff. But here is my way of dealing with the world. I just don't care. I am only one person, and I know that I can go to rallies or tweet the president to change something but the truth is that I have yet to find a reason to put my time and effort into doing that. I'm not saying that I don't care about equality. I show that I care by being respectful to everyone I meet every day. I just much rather spend my time figuring out how to be successful and happy in the world we have rather than changing the world to make it "easier" for me to be happy. Nothing is going to make it easier for me. Mainly because if I can't be happy in the world today, which is full of opportunity, knowledge, money, safety, etc. (and if you're not in an area that has this you can easily move) then I won't be happy in the future even if I have it all. If you want the world to make you happy you're out of luck. Sorry. And if you don't think I'm ever going to make the world better just know this. I am 23, I dropped out of college, I work a 9-5 job and started my own small business, I work 12-14 hours a day, I am about to purchase my first investment property, and I'm doing all of this because I told myself when I as 12 that I had to be successful and create jobs so good people can work somewhere they loved and felt safe. I'm not trying to compare myself to others to say how great I am. I'm trying to make the point that you can either complain your whole life and always be unhappy or you can make a proactive effort to make yourself and the people around you happy. The earlier you choose the better off you and everyone around you will be.

    • CinematicM FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Megan Murphy

      3 months ago

      So many people don't have access to the same opportunities, knowledge, money, or safety as you, and saying "you can easily move" is pretty ignorant to that, I do think it's great that you're trying to create a workplace where people can feel safe (huge respect for this) but the truth is there are so many people who HAVE to care about what happens in politics because it impacts them, they don't have the luxury to just ignore everything and not care about it. If nobody had fought for women's rights in the past, I wouldn't be where I am today, if nobody had fought for racial equality, so many people wouldn't be where they are today. If everyone chose to "just not care" then there would be nobody to fight for things to improve, yes it can get super depressing when you realise how much awful stuff happens in the world, but it's way more depressing for the person going through the awful things, and that's why people should care and should put effort into changing things.

  • deviouslyxnice FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold 1000% Tsun

    3 months ago

    It's unfortunate that such extremism still exists in our day and age. . Quite honestly, it's the lack of foundations such as education, moral supports during childhood, or even the addition of illness. We just don't know how they function, what or how they feel such strong emotion against another human. The fact this type of person is an immedient threat, I whole hardheartedly agree with Burnie that you are not fit to take part of a discussion. I also agree if you are turning a blind eye on what is going around you and act like a stupid mf; you are not allowed to part take in a discussion in which we are trying to move FORWARD. Not backward, not neutral, FORWARD. You are only making the process harder than it has to be for those who still carry a heart and care for thy neighbors. Who for fucksake just want to make a better world. It's also difficult to explain how painful it is to watch all this progressive work being torn apart in a matter of days that took YEARS to do finally push through. To be quite frank, it's hard to not be emotional about either.. Regardless, I'm hopeful about my younger sibling and his generation.. They're smart af and makes me hopeful for a bit longer that we can turn stuff around...


    Even personal note: I love my family, I'd be very devastated if draft happens since we are very close knit. I'm pretty sure I'm not alone. 


    TL;DR: Make love, not war. Everyone should have basic rights and yes, you can be free to speak and such; JUSTDON'TBEANASSHOLE, LET'S FUCKING LAUGH, HAVE FUN, AND BE KIND TO ONE ANOTHER. ლ(・﹏・ლ) I can't explain how to be more human.

    • Callahan_SB FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      (Totally Unimportant Comment) I definitely read "dont bean asshole" the first time. 

  • WickedSeven FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold TheWickedZach

    3 months ago

    Honestly, humor is one of the most important things we need at times like these. 

  • RatedM477 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Matt

    3 months ago

    Hm. I think if your cock is talking to you, you might have bigger problems. o_O

    • DoomPriest FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      There's a movie about that.

  • hydra38811

    3 months ago

    I remember a few weeks ago on the podcast Burnie talking about the hypocrisy of people who say "I'm not racist, but [says something racist]".  On this post show, he did the exact same thing.  He basically said "I'm not saying everyone who voted for Trump is a racist Nazi, but [implies that Trump voters are all racist Nazis]". Throwing insults like that at people who don't share the same politcal views as yourself is the exact reason why this country is in the sad shape it is in right now.  Neither side can have a conversation about a problem without throwing childish insults at each other.  It's sad to see Rooster Teeth, a company that tries to make itself seem like an accepting community regardless of people's differences, generalizing an entire sector of the American population based on the actions of a few extremists.

    • HarrisonFoun FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      Fuck off dude. You're the problem and if you don't know why, you're not paying attention. 

    • hydra38811

      3 months ago

      @HarrisonNoun Thank you for proving my point more succinctly than I ever could.

    • RemyLeBro FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      On the chance that this isn't flamebait, there is a system of logic happening here. Or at least in the point you're trying to make. 


      A Trump supporter is not NECESSARILY a Nazi.

      A Nazi is MORE THAN LIKELY a Trump supporter. 


      Of course, Burnie didn't even try to make that point in this post show, you merely inferred it. He said that Trump won because of his inherent appeal to this fringe group. While he didn't openly thank them, Trump reaped the benefits of casting a wider net than his opponent. He had the support of Nazis. Let that sink in.

    • Callahan_SB FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      If you listened he states the logic is "Not all Trump voters were Nazis, but that all Nazis voted Trump into office

  • ledjimmypage FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    Burnie's closing lines are always the best!

  • HereComeGiants FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    HOW DARE YOU I listen to this current events podcast to get AWAY from current events.

  • Thebluerayxx FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Ray

    3 months ago

    I can't use a electric toothbrush, they vibrate my nose and make me sneeze while brushing. My mirror hates that. I have to use a regular brush cause i'm a pleb.

    • Skip6235 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      Trust me, you get used to it. You have to power through the tickles for a week or so, but then it's totally worth it

    • Callahan_SB FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      Breathing in through your nose might help, kept my nose from going numb the first week or 2

  • Chaotic_Monk FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Bullshit Artist

    3 months ago

    Somehow, in the last week (maybe not even that), I have come across multiple videos where the comments were full of American and apparently European people supporting Hitler and saying he was well intentioned, it's truly mind blowing that this kind of thinking exists even in minor significance.

  • TobiasGeek FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    I would like to have a special request. Can there be a a new t-shirt that says "My Cock Tells Me Stuff" And it is a rooster looking very sinister.

    • RatedM477 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Matt

      3 months ago

      That is... actually hilarious.

  • Wadcroft FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Shameless Fiction Writer

    3 months ago

    The news these days is too depressing for words. The unrelenting torrent of stupid that comes pouring out of humanity makes me want to vomit. I'll give you a few examples that make my stomach turn.


    Someone I know vaguely just retweeted a little piece of prose to the effect that Nazis* are playing the victim, and are building a narrative to support their future use of violence. "Brothers!" or so the Nazis scream. "We have exhausted all legitimate means of defending ourselves from the evils that beset us! To arms!" Which they may be doing. I don't know. But then this little scrote signs off with a hearty "Keep punching Nazis! <3" He is using what he has just called "Nazi tactics" to defend his own violence! And it's people who I know and to some degree respect who are retweeting this!


    And then we have the cesspit that is identity politics. It really destroys everything that it comes into contact with. I have watched it turn thriving fan communities into a barren acid filled wasteland. The notion that one person gets to dictate the other person's morals. The notion that one person gets to tell someone else what art they can and cannot produce. And if some piece of art is "offensive" to someone, that is justification to hound the artist into suicide.


    All the crap coming out of Google recently.


    Youtube deciding not to pay people anymore if they haven't got the right political opinions.


    Twitter and its crusade against That Sort Of Thing, with prodigious amounts of by-catch nobody seems to care about.


    The current spate of thought policing, by people with severely flawed senses of morality.


    It makes me want to throw up. And I cannot avoid it. As soon as I open up Twitter, a fresh load of crap is delivered to my phone, to the point that I'm wondering why I'm paying to be on the Internet.


    I'll make it plain: I'm here for RWBY. I'm here so I can see the funny, dramatic, awesome, heartbreaking tales of Team RWBY, and be inspired to write my own little stories both funny and filthy. I'm here to get away from the unending barrage of crap that the world hurls at me every day. Rooster Teeth is an entertainment company. Their job is to entertain me, and they do it very well. My First membership is money well spent.


    Now this is not a call for Rooster Teeth to just shut up about their political opinions. But please don't let this stuff bleed over into the "escapism" section of the site. Just look down this comment section. Look at all the people with the historical sense of a goldfish, acting as though their words are nothing but the purest pearls of wisdom. The people happily dividing the world into "Us, the Good Guys" and "Them, who are obviously not the good guys." The people who busily make up rules for others that they have no intention of following themselves. Rules that they aren't even aware they're breaking. Shouting matches that have nothing to do with civil discussions.


    Get. Lost.

    I'm here to get away from all that crap.

    I'm here to relax.


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    * Doesn't anyone else notice how flexible the term "Nazi" is these days? Anyone can be a Nazi if correctly viewed, even the people who would have been catapulted into Dachau the moment the original Nazis laid eyes on them. "Nazi" has become shorthand for "Someone I don't like."

    • HarrisonFoun FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      No, Nazi is a term used for people flying the nazi flag as was seen in Charlottesville and their supporters marching for white supremacy. They sieg heil. They use the blood and soil tagline. They have websites like the daily stormer organizing these events. 


      They're fine with being called nazis. Why are you having trouble calling them that?

    • Skip6235 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      1. If ever there was a group of people that deserved to be punched, it's Nazis

      2. While yes, "Nazi" is an overused term, in this particular instance we are talking about people with torches and the Nazi Germany flag giving Nazi salutes while chanting Nazi flags and advocating for a p[articular race's superiority. That's not a misuse of the term "Nazi", that's the definition

      3. If you're here for RWBY, that's great. It's an amazing show. Watch it until your heart's content. This show isn't RWBY. This is a podcast were the RT personalities share what's on their minds, and they would be crazy if the events of this past weekend were not on their minds right now. If you don't like it, like hearing them talk about it, like their opinions, or like the discussions that follow, then don't watch this show. No one is going to revoke your First membership if you don't want to watch every single video RT puts out. If you don't like this kind of content, don't watch it.

    • Neo_Baggins FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      @HarrisonFoun You need to get out more. Ben Shapiro, a conservative jewish lawyer who often appears on news talk shows (and destroys people with logic) wears a Yamaka and has been on multiple occasions been called a nazi. Do you not see the irony? Calling a devout jew who lost family in the holocaust a nazi? It has become a buzzword for a lot of people whom the left disagrees with. I don't want to make a blanket statement like Burnie did, but the word is being hilariously overused and misattributed by ill-informed SJWs looking for shock value to protect their safe space.

    • policeiu FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      I to get frustrated when things like this happen. I watch the podcast to unwind after school and work. I'm fine with them talking about whatever in their personal life (twitter, facebook, etc. it's not like the actual RT twitter account has politics in it.) also I personally don't care if they mention frustration about politics in a limited fashion. It wouldn't be as bad if they had people of other viewpoints for some of the topics they discuss. Like on off topic after trump was elected they whined for a few episodes it got old real fast. I would support them making a show where they have a podcast format where they can talk about podcast

  • Phoenix512 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    I can't believe that Gavin never jerked off without having a boner first. I just go watch some porn everyday regardless if I had a boner already or not.

    • RatedM477 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Matt

      3 months ago

      I just had to lol, because the placement of this comment as I'm scrolling down past Wadcroft's post about something a bit more serious, that caught me off guard, haha.

  • sbloetscher FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    I like when you guys talk about politics. I don't follow much outside of that but I try to keep my self as informed as possible so when you bring up a topic that I don't know anything about I find it informative and will look into it further if I feel the need. Thank you for being open about your opinions.

  • GreyGhost9036 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Angry Beaver

    3 months ago

    BTW as a Middle ground republican im all for RT talking about politics .I dont agree with everything they say but more and more i find my self agreeing with them recently. Even if i didnt find myself agreeing with them i would still want them to speak their minds. So i say just keep going . ive sponsored since 2012 and a little political talk isnt going to stop me from renewing my sponsorship. 

  • OperationHybrid FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    I made the mistake of checking twitter during my break at work yesterday and it was right after Trump's speech where he basically tried to tell us that the protesters for being just as bad as the white supremacists... and I was so angry and disappointed with him as our leader that I was super bummed out the rest of the day...

  • GreyGhost9036 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Angry Beaver

    3 months ago

    Damn never thought i would have to say this on an RT video on the RT cite but forewarning. The comments below are largely about people arguing over politics, racism, and nazis .

  • mrwonderful239 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    I don't mind you guys talking politics. You do you.

  • jah060689 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    Thank you guys for actually talking about things happening in the world. People either push an opinion and ignore everyone else, or they completely ignore everything happening in the world like we aren't on the brink of God knows what. So it's refreshing to hear people actually having a discussion. 

  • Neo_Baggins FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    I know Burnie really likes Philly D. Look to him when you ask yourself why people react negatively to political discussion. DeFranco is liberal, yet he nearly always withdraws his leanings from his videos. He presents facts. Facts from both sides. If something he presented as a fact is later shown to be incorrect, he acknowledges it and corrects it. 


    He also provides something that RT does not: a platform for discussion. He dedicates a show per week to addressing feedback, positive, negative, intelligent and insane. He treats them civilly and fairly even when disagreeing. I disagree with him on quite a bit, but what I appreciate is how he presents both sides with as little bias as possible for a mere mortal. 


    We all love to hear people we admire shout things we agree with. When they start making blanket statements with no option for balanced discourse, very little fact checking and nearly always only one side of the argument presented as undeniable fact, that causes people to feel slighted. Political discussion is far from balanced. Look at science for example: You are famous for getting science incorrect. science is purely fact based at its core. You clearly acknowledge that you often get science wrong, misunderstand it and have brought people to correct it, fans, even Lucy, with an entire show dedicated to it. 


    Why not do something similar to the political discussion? Clearly politics is based on many more variables than science, but at the core, it's a similar issue. Some people feel that facts are being left out or misrepresented. They feel that they have no voice in this matter because there is a vocal portion of the fanbase that shouts down any mention of politics they deem in disagreement with their own. 


    I have a couple ideas for how to make RT political discussion more palatable for some. One is find someone who, if they aren't conservative, they can at least play devils advocate, or remove the majority of their preconceptions. Put PhillyD in the sidecar. Maybe over skype since you both are busy. 


    I will present an example from Off Topic a couple months back. It had to do with derogatory statements the Governor of Texas made about Austin. The majority of the cast proceeded for the next ten or so minutes to make blanket derogatory statements against the entirety of rural Texas...exactly what they were so annoyed about, except instead of a single city, it was the inverse. Everywhere BUT Austin was full of crazy racist rednecks and somehow at fault for the statements of one man.


    That was when I realized that RT doesn't understand what their fans are complaining about. Fans don't want political talk, they want discussion. If you don't care to represent all sides in the discussion and fact check thoroughly, then don't broach the subject and then act persecuted when people disagree or cry foul. 


    Lastly, I would like to say that Burnie's statement that Nazi's are the reason Trump was elected was poorly thought out at least, when given the benefit of the doubt, or else it was a deliberately derogatory and inflammatory blanket statement made against everyone who ever so slightly disagrees with him. 


    Lastly, screw Fascists. Those who stand on a soapbox under a banner, wanting to spout their views and to silence all those who oppose their views, and who resort to violence when faced with anything less than violence. 

    • MtnDewKing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      Phil is probably more of a Libertarian. 

    • Neo_Baggins FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      @MtnDewKing Probably, but he is definitely left leaning politically, and not libertarian on things like healthcare and immigration. I agree with his sentiment, and his openness to discussion, but disagree with a lot of his views. Rarely do his views make it into his videos without him making it clear and separate from the presentation of the facts and arguments. I applaud him. I can't be that objective most of the time. Dude is a legend.

    • PirateKingRyan FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      I would enjoy having DeFranco on the podcast. I though that was going to happen when he was on that episode of Million Dollars But.

  • swordking123 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    I'm just shocked Trump didn't denounce the Nazis like, come on dude, we fought them in a war. That should have been ez points.

    • ZenLikeCalm FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      I'm not shocked at all. 

    • MtnDewKing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      he did though... https://www.youtube.com/watch?...    

      just playing devils advocate

  • Sttahl FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    You don't get to be a Nazi, we had an entire war about fighting against it and won it. You don't see England coming back to reclaim America because they want a second try at getting their 13 colonies back.

  • CptMacDougal FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    I wish I felt like I could express my opinions and frustrations without someone manipulating them to make me look bad, or to further their own biased agenda. I am going to choose to think that Burnie misspoke or did not intend his words to sound as if he was saying everyone who does not vote Democrat is a neo-nazi or a racist. 


    I also wish we could vote on a topic instead of a person. I wish this was as easy as saying I vote no to slavery and racism, and I also vote no to mandatory Insurance being the solution to healthcare.


    I also wish I felt like we had real news and journalists, and not politically biased media outlets.


     I also wish that the people that produce so much content I enjoy watching do not mistake my words and declare me something I am not and label me something wrong or evil or less than desirable. 

    • Chewy77 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Chewy77

      3 months ago

      he was generalizing a fair bit about that. Mostly because there was a lot of media coverage on that aspect of your u.s. election.

    • Skip6235 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      What he was saying isn't "All Trump supporters are Nazis", he was saying "Nazis were significant in getting Trump elected, and Trump shouldn't be accepting that support"

  • Zazie122 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    People don't like you talking about political things because you disagree with them and they feel attacked. Though if anyone actually supports Trump and is an RT fan, the employees have made it pretty fucking clear that they don't want you around.

  • Rogoho

    3 months ago

    Burnie, are you really saying 47% of USA are Nazis? What is wrong with you? This is why you're getting all this push back from all political talk you're putting out there. The amount of generalization against people you oppose ideologically from you and people like you is astounding. You still haven't learned this is part of reason why Hillary Clinton lost the election. Instead of trying to find common ground with the people that opposed her she called them a "basket of deplorables" and her supporters called them misogynists.  Keep demonizing, keep dehumanizing everyone who disagrees with you, see how the elections go for you next time. God damn, you've been alive longer than me, haven't you seen this cycle at least once before?


    Also,you're complaining about "whataboutism" now? Have you always had a problem with it or is just because certain people you disagree with are using it instead of the ones you do agree with? 


    As for the actual Nazi's, racists, WBCs that live in the USA, yeah fuck them too. But hate speech is not illegal and your feelings don't trump(hah) their right to shout out their stupid bullshit to the world. Unfortunately it's getting harder to recognize the real ones when people on Lefts first knee-jerk reaction is to paint anyone who disagrees with them as a dirty racist-nazi-rightwing-facist-misogynist who deserves to have their life ruined for stepping one toe out of line from their beliefs. How is that going to change the current political climate? How is this need to name and shame everyone who disagrees with you going to make things better? How does this not raise alarm bells with the parallels between the way the "Moral Majority" of 80s and 90s tried to control the way people thought and acted and how people on the Left are acting now? People don't deserve their own opinions if they're wrong ones? Wrong according to who? And what happens when the group who decided what was wrong change? 


    As for Gus: you really think that the violence that groups like Antifa, BLM(and Nazis) engage in is a good thing? Was the group that you were remembering so fondly justified in looking for fights against groups they identified as fascists? Were they actually fascists? Were they doing anything illegal? How is mindlessly fighting someone making the world better?


    Or is it just about making you feel better? 



    • burnie FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      I really empathize with the emotion in your post. You have aligned yourself with the lowest elements of our society. I would probably be as mad as you if I did that too.

    • Rogoho

      3 months ago

      Aligned myself with who? Do you know anything about me? Fill in the gaps, please. 


      Oh hey, look what your first reaction to an opposing opinion was.

    • Jrex FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Gus Sponsor

      3 months ago

      it should be the easiest thing to understand, if you're fighting a group that literally believes in the extermination of another group or all "others". they are forfeiting their right to humanity. it's like democracies are black holes, they will allow galaxies to exist, but if they get big enough and close enough... BAM intergalactic spaghettification.

    • Rogoho

      3 months ago

      You know Jrex I'd agree with you in concept if it wasn't for those things the United States has that separates us from groups that believe in indiscriminately killing people that are different from them. What were those dusty old things called? 

    • silverbulletday FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Shy

      3 months ago

      I don't think for one second that Burnie meant to imply that everyone who voted for Trump is a Nazi/White Supremacist.  I'd just like to draw your attention to David Duke's statements after Trump's response to Charlottesville wherein he threatened Trump and reminded him that people of Duke's ilk were the ones who won him the election.  So no, not everyone who voted for Trump subscribes to that hatred but surely everyone who does voted for him.  He didn't cause this line of thinking but he surely emboldened those who do.

    • Jrex FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Gus Sponsor

      3 months ago

      there's nothing indiscriminate about punching/fighting a Nazi/fascist. 


      i guess you need help understanding my analogy our democracy does/should allow Nazi's or whoever exist but if they start to carry arms, use intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims, while expressing that hate speech, and call for attacks like the one that just happened, they have crossed the line of americans expressing their freedoms and liberties to american terrorist.

    • Rogoho

      3 months ago

      You know silverdaybullet, if Burnie didn't mean to generalize against everyone who voted for Trump he probably would of chose to say something different don't you think? "Trump is President because there are Nazis in America and the Alt Right exists. They made him President." Never mind the fact Trump won the Electoral college and not the Popular Vote. Wait, does that make the Electoral college the Nazis? Both groups? 


      As for people like David Duke I'd say they're suffering from delusions of grandeur. Their wet dream of unlimited power hasn't been realized since Trump came into office and I really hope they're beginning to see that they too are a minority of a different stripe and their ideals will never see fruition so long as the Constitution as it is right now stands. 

    • Douglas44 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      Burnie never said that 47% of Americans are Nazis. He said that 47% have masturbated at work... 

      And I think that Gus was just pointing out the fact that people were going out and fighting Fascists. Not that it was a good thing that happened, just that it's kind of crazy to think that its going on. 

    • Rogoho

      3 months ago

      Jrex, the problem is that when people like Burnie blindly label someone a nazi because he disagrees with them people like you believe it's suddenly okay to break the law in order to go teach them a lesson. Those old things I was talking about earlier, they disagree with your opinion. 

    • Jrex FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Gus Sponsor

      3 months ago

      @Rogoho you're delusional if you think a small minority can't inflict change. fewer than 30,000 fascist once marched on Rome and seized control. Italy's pop at the time was 45,000,000~

    • Rogoho

      3 months ago

      I don't know Douglas44, it could be I'm being less than charitable in my interpretation. Who knows, maybe he stopped hanging out with them because their violent behavior finally became too much. 

    • CHEEZEy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      Do you understand that they are dividing America? Instead of being a united country of immigrants we are fighting about social constructs. Racism is a social construct, your ethnicity is a social construct. People were born different colors of skin because of the melanin in their skin. People can't choose where they are born, or what culture they are born into. With time all culture changes because again, it is a social construct. Culture is made by humans. There is nothing wrong with protecting your culture. But how much of that if your culture? That you were raised and taught by your family? 


      Also the first amendment does not protect your right to free speech about what ever you want to say. It says that the government can not harm you for it, unless it causes harm to others. You do understand that other Humans are hurting because of what has been said correct? Other humans are being bullied, beaten up and killing themselves over this rhetoric. Imagine how you would feel if you were in that other humans place? You were being beaten, mocked, or driven to suicide because of the things you see online, or at school? What if your child had to deal with all of this anger? That child was beaten, mocked, or driven to suicide? Do you understand the pain some of these people are facing? 


      To go back to the freedom of speech, it can protect you from the government or work hurting you, but it can not protect you from other people. Sure they should not harm you, but someone telling you harmful things is not something most people can sit back and just watch happen. They will defend themselves because they are being told something harmful. And they will do it any way possible. 


      Also 47% of America did not vote for Trump. Trump won 28.9% of the popular vote.


      22.4% are under 18 years old. 22.4% x 330,000,000 = 73,920,000~ approximate


      330,000,000 - 73,920,000 = 256,080,000 People can vote


      Only 28.5% of those eligible voters voted.

      256,080,000 x .285 = 72,982,800 voted


      Out of that 73 mill Trump won 29.8% of the vote.

      72,982,800 x .298 = 21,748,875 people at most.


      Some sites are reporting only 57.6 mill voted. Using that data

      57.6 x .298 = 17,164,800 voted for him.


      At most 21,748,875 people voted for him. 


      21,748,875/330,000,000 = 6.59% of the TOTAL American population voted for him. NOT 47% 

      21,748,875/256,080,000 = 8.49% of the ELIGIBLE American population voted for him. NOT 47% 


      Do your own math, fact check me I don't mind if you prove me wrong on my math. 


      Don't just believe what you hear. Check it for yourself. 

    • Rogoho

      3 months ago

      It probably would of helped Rome if it had all the tech and resources the United States has today, that way they could of preempted the rioters. Did Rome have anything like a Constitution during this time period you're talking about? Probably not right? They would of just killed anyone who threatened their power base. 

    • Jrex FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Gus Sponsor

      3 months ago

      @Rogoho No, Burnie did not "blindly label someone" or you "a nazi". He said "You have aligned yourself with the lowest elements of our society" and that group (and others) helped win trump the election. 

      and i'd say you're a low level defender of Nazis for our democracy's sake. man you sure picked a great hill to die on. (that's an old saying. i'm not being literal. you daft child.) also not angry with you trying to defend them, hell, John Adams once represented the soldiers that fired on a crowd in Boston in court (and won) but he was still on the better side of history after that, so yeah i know all about those old papers.and yes people will get unlawful in the face of Nazi or any spewing that much hate not everyone gets to be a pacifist.

    • Jrex FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Gus Sponsor

      3 months ago

      lol @Rogoho yeah man no one had laws, constitutions or anything else before modern America. every country was just all anarchy, coups and people overthrowing the next king to sit on that iron throne... oh no wait that's Game of Thrones. 

    • Rogoho

      3 months ago

      "... but it can not protect you from other people. Sure they should not harm you, but .." Damn but that's a butt to many! CHEEZEy, I can't help thinking of people saying racist things but prefacing it with "I'm not a racist, but..." Same behavior, different words, apparently different reactions and justifications. Please explain away why violent behavior is okay when someone you agree with does it. Please. 


      You don't need to give all the credit to the Alt Right over dividing the country, the Alt Left and ALL the Media can take a portion of that pie too. As I said above, if people on the Left had been a bit more compassionate, caring, or even just a little more thoughtful in the way they handled people who disagreed with them we wouldn't have Trump. Or  it wouldn't have been such a big surprise given the way the exit polls turned out and the way the Media gave Trump campaign coverage for free while not treating him like an actual contender. Which he sure as hell shouldn't have been in a sane world. 


      As for the percentage of people that voted you're right that not all of The United States voted. Why did you feel the need to clarify it? Are you trying to imply something about the ones who didn't vote? Or are you just correcting me? Thank you I guess. 

    • Rogoho

      3 months ago

      Do you really have to fall back on semantics to defend Burnie Jrex? If I told you based on what I read here I thought you've aligned yourself with a Authoritarian mindset who believes people should be punished for believing certain things that you don't what would that imply to you? Then again would it be a good idea for Burnie of all people to blindly call a fan a Nazi for expresses my opinion? Probably smarter for him to do it this way. 


      Do you somehow doubt that the average person in the United States has more protection now than the citizens that lived back then did? Of course that wouldn't be the case if you had your way in punching people you didn't like with no repercussions. 


      As far as hills go, I guess I couldn't have better company than organizations like ACLU and FIRE who actually defend free speech. Are you going to tell me I'm on the wrong side of history in <Current year> next? 


    • swordking123 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      "recognize the real ones when people on Lefts first knee-jerk reaction is to paint anyone who disagrees with them as a dirty racist-nazi-rightwing-facist-misogynist " YOU JUST GENERALIZED THE ENTIRE LEFT SIDE YOU TWAT! You just went against what you said earlier you Hippocrit! Christ man, calm your shit.

    • Rogoho

      3 months ago

      Perhaps "some people on the left" would of been better to differentiate the sub group from the whole swordking123. Then again if the original wasn't good enough for you I doubt that would of been either. Also ALLCAPS and name calling don't lend your argument more validity. Unless you're just doing it to make yourself feel better, then carry on. 

    • Neo_Baggins FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      @burnie Phillip DeFranco would be disappointed with that 'response.' It amounts to 'I feel you, you agree with Nazis. U mad bro? I would be.' You had the opportunity to field the beginnings of a discussion. The OP wasn't being any more inflammatory than you were on your soapbox of the Post Show. He was trying to bring an opposing argument and defend those incorrectly covered in your blanket statement about the last election. When will you realize that people want what PhillyD is giving and not what you clearly aren't willing if not incapable of giving: DISCUSSION. You can have your soapbox, you've earned it. Tweet all you want, but I guarantee that not every reply to your political tweets is either 'bravo' or 'shut up.' Yet that is how you paint it year after year. 


      Again, I don't ask you to give up your soapbox, I just ask that you step off of it once in a while and share it in order to create a discourse. Until then, you'll still wonder why people tell you to shut up and not talk about politics.

    • M19A85T FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      Burnie - you'er a typical liberal snowflake who hides from the truths when presented to them Why is it Hard to see that The Far / Alt Left in A.n.t.i.fa are the ones who are out off control and are the source of violence at every Rally, Protest, Demonstration around America it's funny and O.K to you when the Left use hatred and Violence on people with different opinions to the Left.

    • Jrex FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Gus Sponsor

      3 months ago

      @Rogoho let's make this clear as possible. 

      - neither @burnie nor i called you a Nazi.

      - i think what @CHEEZEy was trying to say is, in society our laws and those that uphold them cannot always be there to protect you. And that your words, as free as they are, like actions have repercussions, your words will not be protected if you are trampled in a movie theater because you yelled 'FIRE!' or 'i have a bomb' (hello NSA agent, i don't). same as if you threaten someone's life at a protest. at that point your free speech and actions are violating the other sides rights. and when people tend to feel their life or lives of others threatened they tend to react with at least their state's law regarding stand your ground or castle doctrine. in most states you can use no more force than was necessary to stop the threat.

      - i actually believe myself to be a pacifist* that small asterisks is reserved only for the lowest forms of humanity, Nazis and any other group that believes in exterminating an entire groups of people on the sole fact of their existence. and i do, when i am forced to use violence, it is lawful and the force that was necessary to stop the threat.

      - it the same mindset as why we had the Nuremberg trials and not just public executions, because executing even nazis for sole purpose of being nazis is still wrong. i still believe in justice, though our courts are far from perfect. But you must understand about the modern neo-nazi, by picking up that flag they are saying to the world 'i believe in mass murder and and given the opportunity i would be a foot soldier of an ethnic cleansing' basically a walking/talking time bomb for our democracy. and thus they help create the paradox of tolerance, "first described by Karl Popper in 1945, is a decision theory paradox. The paradox states that if a society is tolerant without limit, their ability to be tolerant will eventually be seized or destroyed by the intolerant. Popper came to the seemingly paradoxical conclusion that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance."


    • Rogoho

      3 months ago

      I didn't realize burnie and CHEEZEy appointed you as their speaker. It's an honor. Has the United States declared war on the Nazi living in its borders yet? If not keep your pacifistic* bash the fash tendencies to yourself. Unless you're willing to get arrested, then be my guest. Because assault, how ever you justify it, is illegal. Hate speech is not. When you break the law there are consequences, no matter who is doing it. 

    • HereComeGiants FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      T-Minus 4 lines until "Hillary Clinton lost the election . . . " 

    • CHEEZEy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      @Rogoho I was trying to say that we can not protect everyone at all times. If you say something someone doesn't agree with I can not protect you from harm. I am not saying it is ok to harm someone ever. I am clearly stating the fact that others react differently to situations. Some are peaceful, some are violent. 


      I am not giving all the credit to them. There is so many factors to the division in America. 


      But personally, it is not what America was founded on. We are a nation of immigrants unless you are Native American. 


      Trump, well Trump also won because of a lot of factors. You could say propaganda against Clinton, and For Trump. You could say People didn't like either so they are voting 3rd party. But whatever the case, most of America thought Clinton was going to win. Which was upsetting because of the lies Trump says. Or the Hate he talks about. I could go on and on about the things Trump says that others dislike. 


      I think people are so upset that Trump won because of what he said. He doesn't represent the majority. Which is what the President is supposed to be, our elected official.


      Now I did all of that Math because I wanted to show you how little of America voted for him, and that not everyone likes his ideals. If only 6% to 9% support his ideals enough to vote for him. It is not 47% of the country that Burnie "hates".  


      Also I don't know if you know this, but they do Gerrymandering. Now Gerrymandering for you, or anyone else reading, is when the divide the districts into smaller, or larger pieces to change how that state will vote. 


      Let's simplify this idea. We have 100 people 60 are Democrat, 40 are Republican. 


      If we break it up evenly it would be 20 per city. City 1 has 20 Democrats, City 2 has 20 Democrats, City 3 has 20 Democrats, City 4 has 20 Republicans, and City 5 has 20 Republicans. Giving Democrats 3 districts, and Republicans 2 districts. This means that Democrats would win.


      This is not how it happens. 


      They take 60 Democrats and place them all in 1 City, Then the Republicans are placed into City 2 with 20 Republicans, and city 3 with 20 Republicans. Give Republicans 2 districts, and giving democrats 1 district. 


      Let's say we do an extreme case. There is 1,000,000 Democrats, and 2 Republicans. They divide it as city 1 has 1,000,000 Democrats, and City 2 has 1 Republican, and City 3 has 1 Republican. This means that Republicans win 2 to 1 because of the districts. This is how our electoral college works.  


      Now I think you know that they do not give a lot of days off in america. 

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_annual_leave_by_country


      In other countries they give you up to 2 weeks paid time off by law. Meaning that many people can take the day off to vote. They also have mandatory voting laws. 


      This means that in America your boss doesn't have to give you the day off to vote, so less people are able to vote. They also have voting id cards, and a lot of other BS so that people have to register to vote before they are able to go vote. This makes huge lines for minorities because they make them so few in their neighborhood. Compared to Republican places they make it easier to vote. So more people can vote in that district. 


      My point is, the ones in power manipulate the voting power of the public. Also in the house and senate we are underrepresented for both sides. they locked it at I believe 535 in the house? This causes bigger states to have less votes, and less say in the laws.  

    • eggbagel FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Thara

      3 months ago

      @Rogoho A slight but important clarification:  In the United States, hate speech is not, in fact, legal, where there is an imminent danger of unlawful action, or where the speakers had the intention to incite unlawful action and where there is a likelihood that this will be the consequence of their speech.  


      I leave it to you to determine whether anyone in their reasonable mind thinks that doing the sieg heil while brandishing torches a la KKK in an American town has any intent other than to incite violence, and has a likelihood to incite violence.  This past weekend in Charlottesville was tragic, but the response to the Nazis' and Klansmen's "speech" was not surprising, and does not qualify for protection.  


      And to call the actions of Black Lives Matter, whose extremely clear motive is to stop the disproportionate killing of black people, "mindless fighting," is absurd, unless you think that black people in this country are being treated fine, in which case, what?  We literally saw KKK in the streets this week.  And to decide to group Black Lives Matter with Antifa like they're all the same people is even more so.  Speaking of generalization!  

  • Jrex FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Gus Sponsor

    3 months ago

    @burnie our humor in the face of tyranny/destruction/Nazis is a must. best example i can think of is the reply to an appeal to surrender. 

    "To the German Commander.

    NUTS!

    The American Commander."


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  • Thehood_62

    3 months ago

    i agree with Gavin, your dick talks to you

  • cat0449

    3 months ago

    Personally I think it's important, even after a tragedy such as what happened this weekend, to be able to talk about what has happened and be able to try and cheer others up to rise from the event. After September 11, 2001, the mayor of New York City asked SNL to go on that weekend because the city needs it. On that broadcast they addressed the terrorist attack and empowered the country through comedy. Hiding from problems will never solve anything, we need to address problems and rise from them.


    RT should be able to talk about whatever they want, they have a right to address issues, and whether or not they do is up to them not somebody who wants to hide in corner hiding from the world. Addressing events is important for our country because it's sort of like a wake up call for us, we need them to help us rise against adversity, and if they addressed it on the public podcast many people would have really benefited hearing what these brilliant minds have to say about these issues.


    RT, you make your own content, if someone doesn't want watch it that is their problem.

  • PhantomAC FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Not Otaku, Just Nerd

    3 months ago

    Burnie, Remember when Prez. Bush Jr gave an open announcement, during the 911 attacks, for America to find the humor in dark times because this is a value that makes America great? (paraphrased)


    Well,.. If we need to pull a trump card on Prz. Trump,.. let this one be it.


    We, the American people (Not the Nazi people) are great. We do what we do when we do it, and when hate or desturction gets involved, we laugh and bury it's dick in the dirt.


    Americans who live the dream will not tolerate tyrants. 


    THAT is what our country is continually being built on.


    There are more loving families, than hate clubs. Leave us alone and go away.


    Own what you say, and sleep well knowing who you are at the end of the day.


    Cheers!  beers

  • SymbolofNope FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    I love how Burnie had to ask Gavin's permission to talk about blinds in his house and then they immediately follow it up by naming co-workers that they think jerked it in the office

  • danvterra13 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    This is one of my favorite post-shows ever.  Seriously, I'm so happy to hear the crew be so open and upfront about issues that need to be discussed.  The hypocrisy of people saying that they are just entertainers and shouldn't voice their opinions is ridiculous.  If a celebrity says something political that somebody agrees with, they are "brave and outspoken" but if they disagree with it "they are just entertainers and need to stick to doing their job."  I hate that attitude, it's fucking disgusting.

    • PhantomAC FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Not Otaku, Just Nerd

      3 months ago

      We, as fans, are interested in what our entertainment personalities have to share. I agree.

    • Hawkn FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      But the people shouting "Blood and Soil", "Jews will not replace us", and "Hail victory" [aka 'sieg heil'] were on an equal moral playing field as the people there to contest their intolerance. (/s because the internet is stupid)

  • M19A85T FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    That's slanderous from Burnie to say that Trump only won the election because only the far right voted for Trump are we saying that all the 59.700.000 people voting for Trump in America are Far Right that's completely nonsensical actually the Far Left and Far Right are equally deplorable for similar and different beliefs. In Fact a lot of Barack Obama supporters decided to change sides and Vote for Trump instead. So let me get this strait, If a group of Rooster Teeth fans were Far Right and they watch support the RT Pod Cast does that then make Burnie a Far Right member as well, Quite simply neither Trump or Burnie would be considered Far Right in that situation. The Alt / Far Left in Antifa are the reason behind riots across America since Trump's inauguration there is plenty of proof

    on You Tube to back these Facts up it has nothing to do with Trump fans or the Far Right it is Antifa who is attacking people who have Right sided beliefs. 

    • swordking123 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      1st off your an idiot. 2nd off "In Fact a lot of Barack Obama supporters decided to change sides and Vote for Trump instead." Proof?citations? peer reviewed sources? You have none, Just your opinion. You know is it a fact? PEOPLE LIKE THINGS SIMPLE AND BASIC. Easy to absorb, basic physiologically. Most people are not in extremes but they act extreme because the most extreme actions are often the basic reactions 

    • M19A85T FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      swordking123 - Many of the people who voted for Barack Obama turned there support towards Trump you would have to be incompetent to say otherwise.

      http://www.salon.com/2016/11/27/obama-to-trump-voters-are-not-a-myth-mdash-but-theyre-also-not-the-real-story/

      It's funny how you ignored the rest of what I said you'er a typical liberal snowflake who hides from the truths when presented to them Why is it Hard to see that The Far / Alt Left in A.n.t.i.fa are the ones who are out off control and are the source of violence at every Rally, Protest, Demonstration around America it's funny to you when the Left use hatred and Violence on people with different opinions to the Left.

  • UncleMazzy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    Me and My wife live in constant anticipation that ill get pull from the inactive reserves to head back out into the 7th fleet and watch North Korea launch Nukes over Japan again

  • AutumnOnFire FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold How may I be of service?

    3 months ago

    14:35 I WAS THINKING THE EXACT SAME THING GUS, THE EXACT SAME THING.

  • Bekitty FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    *talking about the Sonicare toothbrush*


    Barb: Once you go black you never go back.


    I heard you, and I applauded you for that

  • Matthew26757 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    Loved this Post-show! The talks and conversations had me paying attention the entire time.

  • Backlash700 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Backlash700

    3 months ago

    Bernie with the last word!!

  • Haus-party FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    As a Virginian I implore you, to not think of my state as a place where, these kind of people are welcome. C’Vill is a lovely town and these nazi’s don’t speak for us, nor will they ever! As are state motto goes “Virginia is for lovers!” and it always will!

    • HatefulEmperor FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      As a Hoo and a Cville resident, the march that was held last night to retake UVA is what our town represents. An inclusive community that celebrates diversity and education.

  • farson135 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 months ago

    RT personalities are free to say what they want, but keep in mind that you have an incredible level of power, and that gives you a level of responsibility. When I was writing for my student newspaper, my biggest story received a dozen pieces of mail. I cannot imagine the power RT personalities wield. What you say has a major impact, and it cannot be considered on the same level as shooting the shit with your friends. This is not condemnation, just something to remember.


    Let us keep something in perspective. There are no exact numbers, but the estimated crowd size for the white supremacist group was a few hundred. Let us say we are dealing with 300 people. Of the non-Americans out there, how many people think their country could supply 300 nutjobs (assuming hate speech/assembly laws do not exist)? The public response to the rally is far more telling of American society, than this tiny group. The problem I have with the media response to this tragedy, is how much power we have given to this irrelevant segment of our population. If you count every hate group in this country, we are talking about 20-30,000 people, out of 320,000,000.


    I am just going to leave off with a quote from my favorite civil rights leader. I think it is an important quote for these troubled times-


    “If we desire a society of peace, then we cannot achieve such a society through violence. If we desire a society without discrimination, then we must not discriminate against anyone in the process of building this society. If we desire a society that is democratic, then democracy must become a means as well as an end.”

    -Bayard Rustin

    • CHEEZEy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      But they are not using that power for evil? If I remember correctly, they try to never ask the community anything but their support and watch their content? They are not saying to hurt others. They are saying to be peaceful and love one another. They dislike this and that, and here is their reasons why those laws, or policies are good or bad. They are calling out a liar, and their distrust of their elected leader. 


      They have power, but they almost never use it for political gain. They just say to vote.  

    • farson135 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      @CHEEZEy On this very video, Burnie said; "Trump is President because there are Nazis in America and the Alt Right exists. They made him President."


      Even if he did not mean that literally, the way they say things is problematic. I come from a rural community in Texas. Virtually everyone in my hometown is a Republican. I try to show people in my hometown that left wingers are not a bunch of ignorant, elitist, nutjobs. I would not use RT content to prove that. Keep in mind, right wingers give just as much credence to left wing "jokes", as left wingers give to right wing "jokes". 

    • CHEEZEy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      @farson135 Well I don't think poorly of a Republican just because they are Republican. Personally I judge them on their actions, and ideas first. Just as people should not judge a book by its cover, we should first look at the person and what is inside their heart. Most people are moderates and are just slightly right or left on politics. Most people want good healthcare, good jobs, good homes, lower crime rates etc... The difference in the approach each of us take on that issue is how we vote left or right. 


      To answer your point about Burnie, why would you show them liberal Austin Texas? Why not show them the slight differences in each party? So they don't think that they are aliens from another planet? Why not find common ground? Why not explain the different views? Why not look at every view, not just right or left, but more international views? Or more State wide issues, and solutions?

    • farson135 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      @CHEEZEy I lived in Austin for 5 years. I am probably more left wing than most (if not all) RT employees. I can still hold a civilized conversation with people from my home town. Even when discussing politics.


      There is no reason why RT personalities could not show off the best elements the left has to offer. Instead, all too often, they epitomize the worse elements. I often ask left wingers, what do they think of the phrase, “Make America Great Again”? Often, the response is something about how the past sucked for people of color, LGBTI people, etc. That phrase is not designed for those people. It is designed for the former coals towns of eastern Kentucky, which are some of the poorest areas in the US (Trump is a big supporter of coal). It is also designed for people like my Grandfather, who still remembers a time where he worked a high paying manufacturing job (Trump is a part of the Made in America movement). It is also designed for my Great-Uncle, a former doctor, who said that he would not give 2 cents to work as a doctor nowadays, when doctors worry more about lawyers than their patients.


      I have said this many times, if left wingers had taken a tiny portion of the time they spent making fun of Trump, tried to understand why people were voting for Trump, and then, if they took another tiny time portion of their time, and used it to adjust their message, Trump never would have been elected to begin with. The RT personalities are funny, but they are unhelpful in the political arena. 

  • jamsamesss FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Sam James

    3 months ago

    A bunch of nazi sympathisers are attacking your views and opinions? That means you're doing something right. I don't know about anyone else, but I love seeing RT employees tweeting and talking about how dangerous Trump, his supporters and his cabinet are. 


    Fuck the '#MAGA Deplorable Susie' Twitter accounts, and keep on triggering these neo-nazi, scumbag Trump worshippers. <3