Volume 3, Chapter 12: End of the Beginning

RWBY: Volume 3, Chapter 12: End of the Beginning

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The Vytal Festival Tournament is the ultimate battle of skill, pitting the world's most powerful Huntsmen and Huntresses in training against one another... and it's finally here! Ruby, Weiss, Blake, and Yang are back for a season of over-the-top action, and they're not alone. New fighters from around Remnant are ready to bring glory to their kingdom, but there are those among them with a far more sinister goal in mind…

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  • starkiller762

    2 days ago

    crazy talk, but what if Jaune’s semblance allows him to temporarily revive fallen friends???

  • swordsmaster123

    4 days ago

    I just finished watching this episode for about the 400th time (never get sick of RWBY) when I noticed something that I don't think anyone else has caught onto yet.  Pyrrha flies out of the elevator and slams her shield into Cinder, then launches off it and does a backflip to land on her feet. This moment is a throwback to Volume 2 Episode 1 (The Best Day Ever!). In the food fight Ruby does exactly the same thing with a lunch tray, and she uses this move against Pyrrha. I think that Pyrrha might have got the idea to use this move from Ruby.

  • corbossjh

    2 weeks ago

    what the hell her power

  • cinnadrom

    3 weeks ago

    But hey, Penny can be rebuilt! And Yang didn't die or anything, she just lost her arm! See, everything is (mostly) ok! Wait, Phyrra? Oh. Ummmm....

  • cinnadrom

    3 weeks ago

    Hear that? That's the sound of all the Arkos fans screaming in agony! 

  • tomtheguy101

    3 weeks ago

    Did anyone notice how Ruby's eyes are getting darker?At the start of the series her eyes were pure silver,and now they are a WAY darker shade of silver,almost black.I wonder what it means...

  • adrianragot FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    8 months ago

    Oh it hurts every time, thank god there's RWBY Chibi, best remedy there is.

  • Alexdykes1

    9 months ago

    I suppose this is what happens why you shout "DIE! PENNY! DIE! FUCK YOU NUTS AND BOLTS"? I think that this was the first death that legitimately made me cry. Wolverine in Logan, Ironhide in Transformers 3, other Autobots between Transformers 3 and 4, Newt from the Alien franchise, Amy Pond and Rory Williams in Dr Who, various Game of Thrones characters, various characters from Rick Riordan's mythology universe, various Harry Potter characters, various Assassin's Creed characters, various Halo characters, various characters in Akame ga Kill, Quicksilver and Patriot in the MCU, Kid Flash in Young Justice, Thorin, Kili and Fili in the Hobbit, Boromir in Lord of the Rings, Tex in RvB and Monty Oum in real life all made me grieve but never weep. I haven't even cried at the funerals of relatives before.


    What I don't get his how this is any different from Pyrrha living? I don't see why Ruby couldn't have arrived seconds before she was shot. There's no reason for the shock of seeing her friend about to die, mixed with the other tragedies, activating her silver eye powers. Ruby and JNPR (plus Qrow) would've still gone to Haven. I would only not be so pissed if it turns out that Grimm Pyrrha is a future plot point that results in Pyrrha being returned to normal and oh so very much alive.


    Also, I built a memorial for Pyrrha in Minecraft. The last block was placed exactly a year after her death.


    Arkos forever!

    • Lord_Stark FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      That still won’t bring her back lol

  • Jaanichu

    9 months ago

    Pyrrhas ashes to ashes, SDC's Dust to dust

    too soon?

    ok... WAIT A SECOND! it's been A YEAR! You can't use the too soon excuse on ME now!

  • 4654ryan FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    9 months ago

    cinder i wanna kick your but

  • TB74

    9 months ago

    Basically, I lost three (most probably four) of my favourite characters in the last four chapters.


    First, Penny. Maybe they can rebuild her... if they can spare the time and energy as the world is nearing destruction and all.


    Then, Neo. Best baddie ever... Though she might be alive, I doubt we'll see much of her in the future... and she might have been swallowed whole on her descent, for all we know.


    Then Roman. The bad guy with the best lines of the entire show. I understand he (and Neo) had a purpose and that purpose is gone now (from a writer point of view, at least), but it stills sucks to see the funniest bad guy being robbed from us like this. Though I loved how he died. LoL


    And finally... Pyrrha. Of course, the character I loved the most had to sacrifice herself. Still... Hurts like hell.  :(


    I used to love Cinder. I thought she was sexy and clever, making her a very interesting baddie. Of course, I thought she was behind all this incredibly complex plan, too, but now it's clear Salem played a major role and that Cinder was her lieutenant, and not the one who designed that plan. Anyway, my love for her faded into nothingness after she murdered Pyrrha in cold blood. Now I ****ing hate her. LoL


    So yes, I hate that all those characters I loved are now dead. Team RWBY and their friends and allies were essentially "Waterlooed". Crap, the rebels had it easy in The Empire Strikes Back compared to that.


    But, on the other side, the real story behind RWBY is unfolding, now, and I just love the dark, desperate direction it is now heading for. I won't take any character for granted anymore. Though it's scary to know I could "lose" another character I love, all this struggle means I care even more about the characters now. I feel like as powerless, worried and hopeful as they do, and that's what a damn good story is supposed to be about. Kudos on all the people who worked on RWBY. The art, animation, sound, music, design, direction, story, dialogue and voice acting all contributed in making RWBY what it is now: a classic.


    I'm totally hooked.

    • Ace-of-Rogues

      1 month ago

      Yeah, I was beginning to wonder who Cinder's boss was around the late-middle part of this volume. I think the big give-away that she wasn't the one pulling all the strings was when they described the way the Maidens' powers transfer to Pyrrah (may she rest in peace). There was just too much secret information for her to have had the time to discover it all, and track down one of the Maidens, and make this plan if she was as young as she looked; and nothing in the way she talked or acted suggested she was some "elder being" type in disguise. 


      I hope her backstory makes her interesting again, I'm curious to know why she's going along with a plan that is basically "destroy the entire world". They already did survival with Torchwick, so they better have come up with a different and more intriguing reason for Cinder.


      I'm also a bit scared to see who's next on the block now that they've established that most if not all the characters we've grown attached to are fair game. People make fun of how "no one dies in anime", but the flip-side to that is that every death hits a lot harder because it's not just part of the show (although One Piece could stop showing so many people seemingly die, only to miraculously save them all at the end of the arc :P ).

  • dunlaw FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    11 months ago

    Damn Crow, leading us to believe you went ahead to Haven, when you were just planning on tailing Ruby and Crew

    • Jaanichu

      9 months ago

      planning on STRQ'ing team RNJR 8) hey Yang can i borrow your sunglasses

    • Castle_Bravo FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 months ago

      I like team Ranger.

  • Silence456 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Cleorge Goonie

    11 months ago

    This is probably the best volume of of Rwby, because something happens

    • thehappypanda

      10 months ago

      No, because EVERYTHING happens.

    • Lord_Stark FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      This is the volume that got me into the show to begin with. 

  • GoddamLochNessMonster

    1 year ago

    So who else likes to come back to this one over and over just for that 30 second fight in the beginning?  

    • KrysBush FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      11 months ago

      tmw Ozpin is actually Genji


      gg

    • ccflierthief

      10 months ago

      tmw your genji's ult is charged for 3 whole seasons and he still didn't use it.

    • TB74

      9 months ago

      Ditto. I also watch the episode's last—and tragic—fight over and over. And despite always making me a bit sad, it remains epic.

    • Lord_Stark FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      Same lol. That Salem reveal and the song Divide got me hooked into the show

  • TheHumanFlag FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    So we don't really know what happened to Ozpin, but I like to think he's still alive, killing someone like him offscreen is never permanent.


    But after the credits we saw Qrow holding onto Ozpin's staff before he flies off.


    Any theories to resolve that?

    • ccflierthief

      10 months ago

      So ya know how sometimes people drop their wallet on their way home from work. Maybe he was getting into his car and forgot his cane and he already took his bathe and was in bed and said "F*CK IT! I'll pick it up in a couple seasons" He could have just dropped it. Weapons don't have locked partners, I just assume people who don't know how to use it would think of it as less efficient to just pick them up or steal them. It's not like we saw him get shot in the chest.

  • thehappypanda

    1 year ago

    and Yang's arm.

  • thehappypanda

    1 year ago

    Can we all just take a moment for Pyrrha and Penny? The two were deeply loved. Then they died horribly. May they rest in peace.(or in pieces.)

    • Jaanichu

      9 months ago

      Penny's gonna be easy to rebuild, and plus, she's a robot. Pyrrha, i mean, she's in so many pieces, and those pieces need to be found first, then cooled down, compressed, and where the heck is Pyrrha's soul?

  • edsamac

    1 year ago

    So Pumpkin Pete IS on Jaune's hoodie even in Volume 3.  open_mouth (you can see the :3 mouth for a split second at 5:32)

    • purple_grenade FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      Dramatic moment when everyone's so tensed up and you go "Look Pumpkin Pete" 

    • Lord_Stark FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      Plot twist: Pumpkin Pete is Ozpin and Salem did 3/12. Beacon was an inside job confirmed

  • lcm

    1 year ago

    Kill Penny, I'm mad

    Cut Yang's arm off, how could you?
    Kill Pyrrha, you're officially THAT company, alright? You know the one. You watch their anime and they're like, "Hey, we're gonna kill two great characters and take the limb of another because we can and we're going for a lot of emotion in this volume." FUCK YOU! I AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNN'T HAVING THAT SHIT!!!!!!







    (Still love y'all)

  • OtakuKid

    1 year ago

    I love Bumblebee

    • Matteronn96 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      7 months ago

      Same

  • MJB328 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Blue Team RULES!!!!!!!!!

    1 year ago

    yup ok i'm calling it even though i've been consider this since before season 3 had started and season 4 has started. ruby is Qrow/Summers daughter. Summer probably just got killed on a mission with Qrow and he couldn't take it so he dumped ruby off with her uncle tai and went to work for ozpin hunting down who was behind her death aka salem directly or indirectly. till the show offically ends im going with this theory. The idea that tai hooked up with both the girls on his team always seemed greedy and just didn't sit right with me. Plus the glare Tai gave Qrow gives off a very strong "Fuck off Qrow I raised her, she's my daughter vibe."

    • caboose2394 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Well that doesn't make any sense. Yang remembers Summer and how she was a "super mom" so she would have remembered if they suddenly started calling her Yangs sister for no reason. It also doesn't make a lot of sense for Tai and Qrow to keep lying for all this time for no reason other than to purposefully create drama.


      At best, Qrow would have had to give up being the father before Summer died and that doesn't make a lot of sense either.

    • MJB328 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Blue Team RULES!!!!!!!!!

      1 year ago

      @caboose2394 ok how about this qrow knocked up summer and did what his sister did and ran off. 

      summer and tai raise their daughters to together as sisters then summer dies.that make more sense

    • SunshineArmadillo

      10 months ago

      That sounds pretty cool and could make for a great story!  Especially since Qrow and Ruby are so similar and have some of the cutest scenes together.  He seems to care for her more than a normal uncle.  It makes it even more great after the revelation that he is a bad luck charm.  So that adds even more depth to the situation.  Now I really wish that is the case!

    • jdub3366 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Jdub3366

      9 months ago

      I had not considered that line of thinking, but I can definitely buy that.  cant wait to see if yo are right or not:)

    • MaximusTheDude

      9 months ago

      I sort of understand the people who think Ruby is Qrow and Summer's daughter, but it just doesn't make sense for Summer and Tai to not be in a relasionship and yet raise a happy family together. It make more sense to just say that they WERE in a relasionship, which led to Ruby.

  • Araessi

    1 year ago

    I came back to watch this episode after watching the first episode of Volume 4, and just to nitpick, I am a little confused why Cinder's eye that was covered by hair was the one she lost.

    • Nevayen15

      1 year ago

      She probably moved her hair while fighting Ruby as she did he Silver eyes power.

    • TheHumanFlag FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Hopeful we'll be able to explain that when they teach us more about what silver eyes actually do.  We're as in the dark as Ruby is.  I don't expect RT to make that choice only because "it looks better"

  • Timeless89

    1 year ago

  • British_Knight FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Misunderstood Sarcastic

    1 year ago

    im here because i dont remember what the fuck is going on at the first 2 minutes of Season 4...


    Whose with me?

    • Timeless89

      1 year ago

      Same lol

    • TeamMatt

      1 year ago

      Lol I don't know what happened to cinder. She was fine as far as I remembered

  • killlionar399 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    RIP MONNTY

  • killlionar399 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    BURNIE WHO ARE YOU?????????????

    • purple_grenade FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      9 months ago

      Tai

  • Icky427 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Icky

    1 year ago

    phew! what a ride (again). ready for V4!!!!!

  • Silence456 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Cleorge Goonie

    1 year ago

    I really like Volume 3, it finally did something and actually makes the villains really threats and an actual challenge. If anything this reminds me of the Star Wars Prequels, if they were done right.

  • Adrigirl19 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Well now that I am all caught up... Time to binge RWBY Chibi for some lightheartedness

  • KoalaTeaGuy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Ok I binge watched it...NOW I NEED MORE

  • Skip6235 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Man, I remember when this video first came out and the reveal that the narrator of episode one and the WoR videos was actually the big bad! My mind was BLOWN! I cannot wait for Volume 4! BRING ON SATURDAY!!

  • EllipseZL FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Yo this show fuckin sucks 

  • SneakySylveon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Pokemon Master

    1 year ago

    Done rewatching for Vol4. Im so excited for all the Yangst

  • Caboose522

    1 year ago

    When you realize that when that ominous crow showed up this episode and in episode 4 it was actually just Raven lurking around. Also, "Qrow" and "Raven". :D

    • Catoust FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Alternatively, CRWBY's hope that Monty's given his blessing for them to continue. That bird /is/ one of his signatures.

  • Nemesis2015

    1 year ago

    Also if yang gets a robot arm, I still freaking called it, and I still think that Pyrah is coming back through some magical force somehow also you doubters yes Pyrah might be back also called it (don't say I didn't say that it wasn't going to happen when it does)

    • MaximusTheDude

      9 months ago

      I am glad that someone has some hope for Pyrrah, I thought I was the only one. Even as just some kind of ghost or spirit thing that appears to Jaune or someone, I honestly don't mind. I just hope that they either justify her death with some sort of major event or character developements, or bring her back somehow. It just feels like her character was still going places...

    • starkiller762

      2 days ago

      It’s possible that when cinder dies, the maidens power will try to find Pyrrha  since she was partially bonded to it. That power might be enough to bring her back, even if it’s temporary.

  • Nemesis2015

    1 year ago

    What would your power(forgot the word) be and what weapon would you have, mine would be a Binary sword and to control light and dark energy

  • Daxuran FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Theory timeeee:

    That place we saw at the end, that's where Ozpin is. He lost to Cinder in their fight but he wasn't killed, rather captured.  That woman was Cinder's leader/master of some kind, and likely the show's ultimate big baddie.  As for where they are, it seems like another dimension, a kind of RWBY-Hell.  It's probably where the Grimm come from, and it's where Raven Branwen (Yang's mom) is, because we saw her go through some weird red portal on the train and disappear.  And finally, the conversation that lady at the end was having with Ozpin was the same one as the beginning of RWBY s1 ep1, or at least around the same time.  Can't wait to see Volumes 4 and after to find out if this is all accurate!

    • BlindCoyote Blind Coyote

      1 year ago

      That woman is Salem i Believe, voiced by Jen Taylor (Cortana)

    • Lord_Stark FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      As someone else, that was Salem, voiced by Cortana. Someone really and seriously pissed off wannabe Siri

  • Rebellion101 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Sunzo

    1 year ago

    Rooster Teeth, Please, WE NEED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED WITH RUBY we need to eventually see just what it is she did. Even if it's really close to the end.

  • Kerisato

    1 year ago

    I can die happy now (maybe). The fight between Ozpin and Cinder was nothing less than epic, even if short. My only question: Did Cinder actually win? And why did Amber not use that kind of power against Cinder, Emerald and Mercury?


    I hate myself now for coming across a spoiler about Pyrrah Nicos. But I'm glad I remembered it wrong (I somehow thought all of Team JNPR got offed). With Jeane just pleading for Ruby to save Pyrrah and then Ruby watching Pyrrah die, it was nothing less than tear jerking. Here I thought it would be just a glorious fight against innumerable Grim, but nope. It was a one-on-one with Cinder, and their last dialogue right when Ruby made it to the top of the tower made it much more tragic.


    Love how the opening credits for Season 3 now made sense; Ruby lost two of her friends, her sister lost her arm, their team is disbanded, they lost their school and their entire kingdom is now dark. It's a whole new, scary, world for a littler girl to live in. (And Yang looks completely defeated now.. When she called out to Ruby, with eyes on the verge of crying. I know it's an anime but darn that was moving. 


    For some reason I get the feeling Ozpin is still alive. That woman talking in the final scene (chilling how she went from delivering a message filled with hope, to one filled with hate) said Ozpin would to watch everything he worked for fall apart. And each the time the Professor was mentioned by someone it was only that he was missing. None of them know where he is but no one seems to think Cinder killed him. So I'm sticking with my theory that Ozpin's semblence has something to do with Eternal life. Though maybe not invulnerability. (So many times there's been hints, from Professor Port, to Goodwitch, to Qrow, Ironwood, to Ozpin himself.)


    An incredible end to an incredible season. Monty would be proud, I think.

  • chaingun1701 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    So a month ago I had a crazy idea that Salem might be on Remnant's intact moon.  And I was watching the scene with Salem to disprove this crazy idea, but we only see one moon.  So... is my idea still crazy?

    • Lord_Stark FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      This comment is the sole reason why this website needs a +1 HOLY SHIT?! button

  • TrueKn1ght FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Remember the death but fight for the living!!!!!! 

    Also going back penny had a plan i reckon that was her plan. It was a double think about it.

    penny is part of atlas corp and hence is in their data base so she could also set up the ties too and pick Pyrrha, she places a double in her place and controls it then she puts up a good fight and bang she dies. plus she is an AI and she would've calculated a way to dodge that attack if she didn't plan on it faking death.

    • starkiller762

      2 days ago

      Penny is a virtual intelligence, not artificial. She’s basically a synthetic human. She would think like us, and therefore have no reason to think something is wrong. She would have no reason to access the database, or create a double. It was her in that fight, and as much as it hurts, she was killed. We might see her come back some day, but she’ll be different.

  • Gravy-san FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    So silver eyes are homozygous recessive? Hope that Genotype sticks around.

  • agenttexassippianna

    1 year ago

  • Alex99O FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    my god the feels all over again!


  • agenttexassippianna

    1 year ago

    On the one hand I love this series and hope it never ends, but on the other, I really want to see team RNJR kick Salem's ass while the loss of Penny, Pyrrha, and 1/5th of Yang is still fresh in mind.


    Since they're traveling to Haven, I have a sneaking suspicion that the series will go through ALL the kingdoms, and maybe even past that (there's a lot of allusion to nation-on-nation war going on ) before we get any closure.


    Strangely enough, I feel more concerned about Yang's arm than the two major protagonist deaths. I mean, sure it's sad that Pyrrha died, but we KNOW that that's a permanent development. In comparison, it's anyone's guess whether Yang will get a cybernetic arm, regrow her original arm, or simply live without her right arm altogether.


    Damn, October 22nd is on my calendar and can't come soon enough.

    • BlindCoyote Blind Coyote

      1 year ago

      Is rnjr going to prounce themselves as team RANGER?

  • Shrekinator

    1 year ago

    Some dark shit...


    Well, that went terribly wrong. I like it, but something tells me to not continue to watch it because in the end, it tells me that evil wins, and I'm not used to that. But there is this thing about loving to hate parts of things that you love...


    Yep, I'm butthurt... but then there's the fact that a lot of people were upset over Pyrrah's death. (Sorry if I misspelled that) But I've been questioning this lately.... this is what I think about that one moment... http://bit.ly/2crsa50


    • bengerald7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Nah. it's probably going to have a good ending.

  • CoreyFerns FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I know it was necessary and I knew it was coming, cause people posted spoilers on RWBY Chibi -_-...but my heart still can't take it. This is legendary...Haven't felt like about a series in a long time, RvB was the first because things got real pretty quick...but...whew...

    Can't wait for season 4...ain't here soon enough..and yep, I just marathoned my way through it finally...

    • ironlotus1997

      1 year ago

      RWBY Chibi already talk about and hinted that spoiler in episode 6 you should not read a comment section of a popular series they will contain spoilers just a heads up for next time you have had the whole summer to watch RWBY I don't understand why people read comments before they watch a popular series even if there has not been that many episodes or it's not that long

    • CoreyFerns FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      No it's not that I just slowed down and lost track for a bit then I got through it, not that it makes a major different to me spoilers or not, I'm just one of those people who don't get affected anyway. Even if I know it's coming it'll still hurt xD

  • sleetymonster25

    1 year ago

    may the theories begin

  • Elemental_Chicken

    1 year ago

    Wait why did Qrow have Ozpin's staff in the after credits scene?

    Please tell me ozpin isn't dead.

    • TheRealPunquake

      1 year ago

      He said he would finish what ozpin started or whatever so i guess the staff might mean the rank type thing, idk im clueless

    • fredkelemen FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Qrow probably came to the conclusion that he found the cane (what you call a staff) and the lack of Ozpin meant that instead of being killed Ozpin was Imprisoned (likely by this Salem character) and took upon himself to find Ozpin and return to him his weapon.

    • Caboose522

      1 year ago

      No, at he end of the episode before the credits, Salem said that she couldn't wait to watch Ozpin burn, so he's probably out doing some vague, awesome wizardly shit somewhere.

  • threePwny

    1 year ago

    **SPOILER ALERT: DO NOT READ UNTIL FINISHED WITH VOLUME 3. CARRY ON**


    A part of me really hates to see a favorite character killed and another beloved character permanently mutilated, but I'm also glad to have creators who aren't so afraid of upsetting their audience that they can't maintain narrative stakes. There's not much suspension of disbelief because there's no reason to disbelieve that in war against an opponent truly bent on destroying them, our heroes will suffer actual casualties. There are narratives in which a lack of casualties is acceptable, but this is not one. Joss Whedon did not kill off the main characters during Firefly's run because he needed all of them for the dynamic of the show, but once the movie was the last thing he could do with the franchise, the predictable necessity of character deaths came to fruition. Here, the dynamic of the show is, well, dynamic, and the first death of a close friend and teammate forces the characters to develop and for some, grow; for others, wilt away. And while the same first part of me that hated to watch Pyrrha die would love to see her come back, even if Miles and Kerry can find a canonically sound way that doesn't ultimately feel forced and like cheating, if she ever returns, the permanence of loss would be nullified and we could never again expect our heroes to do anything but win again and again and again with no losses. In the end, Pyrrha must die and stay dead.

    • Kerisato

      1 year ago

      A little trick for posting Spoilers. In the text box there are several options you can click to change your type. You can do Bold, or Italic, or Strikethrough. You're familiar with bold, I assume. But to the far right, by the emoji there is a eye that's crossed out. That's for Spoiler talk. Works like so: I don't want to spoil it so I'm blocking this out. In order for it to work you have to click it first, then go to the text box and type. Then click it again. to revert back to visible text. Can be a bit difficult at first but I hope it helps.

    • Alexdykes1

      5 months ago

      The permanence of loss wouldn't be nullified. There are dozens upon dozens of TV shows, films, books, comics and video games that have restored characters back to life and have still had the same stakes. If Pyrrha was somehow brought back, there's no reason for it to have been a one time only event and it wouldn't stop other characters from being killed.