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RWBY Volume 5: In-Depth Discussion/Speculation/Spoilers (All Things Must Die {FINALE})

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  • Dinobot01

    Dinobot01

    #33569401 - 1 year ago

    In reply to FettucCR

    You and me both

  • Blue-Rose-89

    Blue-Rose-89

    #33569918 - 1 year ago

    In reply to FettucCR


    I get what you're saying I'm open to that possibility. 


    Overall I would like to see the White Fang be 'humanized' in Vol 5 or 6. I want to see members that are either Faunus that believe in the cause but lost their way (like Illia could possibly be) or Faunus who, like Blake, are beginning to regret their actions and want out but can't because desertion means death. If Blake wants to take back the White Fang she needs those Faunus in her group instead of ones that want no involvement with the White Fang.

  • HunterBlaine

    HunterBlaine FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    #33569925 - 1 year ago

    In reply to Blue-Rose-89


    I actually heard someone make the argument that it'll be hard to humanize the Fang because even the ones who may have misgivings are being complacent in the illegal activities and thats not really a recipe for sympathy 


    I dont agree, but its interesting someone views it as such

  • SAmaster

    SAmaster

    #33569926 - 1 year ago

    In reply to Blue-Rose-89

    There could also be a group as Ghira suggests, who joined because they don't really know tge White Fang is steadily becoming more and more radicalized.

  • SAmaster

    SAmaster

    #33569929 - 1 year ago

    In reply to HunterBlaine

    I think that applies to the Vale branch, but the White Fang has several autonomous cells, who could have various policies and influence.

  • lionblaze77

    lionblaze77

    #33569947 - 1 year ago

    In reply to SAmaster


    See I never believed that. People were saying that because those two guys said the Vale branch was radicalized that the rest of the Fang was separated into different branches that might not be as bad. But to me, it felt like those two guys were just saying that to Ghira to persuade him that they weren't the enemy. They lied about plenty else in that conversation, and they even seem to be working with Adam, so why would people believe that one part of the conversation was true? From what I can tell, the entire White Fang is radicalized under the current leadership of Sienna and the others. It even sounds like he/she is working with Salem's group.

  • Sonicxben

    Sonicxben FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Die Hard '80s Fan

    #33569955 - 1 year ago

    In reply to lionblaze77  Not quite, but maybe.  I think the Vale branch (including the fox twins) are loyal to Salem and her faction while the rest of the White Fang are being blackmailed to working for Salem's as well.  Salem blatantly said in Ep. 1 that 'Adam is loyal.  Make sure Sienna Khan feels the same way.'  So the White Fang are largely independent, but all the WF in Vale work for Salem.  The twins are working for Adam as well, and persuading others that they are different so they can continue operating without interference.

  • revanninja

    revanninja FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold One who is judged by the

    #33569960 - 1 year ago

    In reply to lionblaze77

    Agreed 

    From my phone 

  • FettucCR

    FettucCR

    #33569980 - 1 year ago

    In reply to lionblaze77

    In reply to SAmaster

    I find it hard to believe every single member of the Fang is radicalized. There are probably members who don't agree with the current direction, or those who simply don't know better. In any case, if Blake is to form her own group, there will be Faunus willing to side with her against Adam.


    In reply to Blue-Rose-89

    Humanized, at least in part. An internal clash would be inevitable, since not all the Fang members will abandon Adam.

  • lionblaze77

    lionblaze77

    #33570026 - 1 year ago

    In reply to FettucCR


    Oh well of course every single individual member isn't going to like what's going on and be radicalized. I'm just saying that the organization as a whole is.


    I'm sure there are a ton of members that don't like what's going on, but are still in because they are scared to leave and "in too deep". I mean, we saw what happened to deserters.

  • FettucCR

    FettucCR

    #33570033 - 1 year ago

    In reply to lionblaze77

    True. That is why I hope Blake will form a parallel organization to fight Adam. 

  • Blue-Rose-89

    Blue-Rose-89

    #33570039 - 1 year ago

    In reply to FettucCR


    What would her group be called? White Fang 2.0? Black Fang? 


    I saw someone deciding to call Adam's faction the 'Red Fang'. I won't lie it's got a nice ring to it.

  • FettucCR

    FettucCR

    #33570043 - 1 year ago

    In reply to Blue-Rose-89

    "Black Fang" would be cool.

  • ImmaThinkin

    ImmaThinkin

    #33570054 - 1 year ago

    In reply to FettucCR

    Yeah, because nothing says ferocious like severe tooth decay.

  • Blue-Rose-89

    Blue-Rose-89

    #33570148 - 1 year ago

    In reply to ImmaThinkin


    How about "Black Claw"?

  • FettucCR

    FettucCR

    #33570167 - 1 year ago

    In reply to ImmaThinkin

    I hadn't thought of it that way, and now I can't get the image out of my head. Thank you veeeery much.

  • SAmaster

    SAmaster

    #33570301 - 1 year ago

    In reply to Blue-Rose-89

    Exactly. Think about what color Blake is associated with.

    In reply to Sonicxben

    Salem only recently co-opted the White Fang, and is still in the middle of doing so.

    In reply to lionblaze77

    Because Ghira, being the former head, would know of the entire White Fang were radicalized. The way they refer to the White Fang when Blake shows up suggests the Menagerie branch is pretty mundane, they refer to him in the same context as the milkman. 


    Additionally Terrorist organizations are usually organized in cells to maintain flexibility and in case a leader is assassinated.

  • mkln

    mkln

    #33570684 - 1 year ago

    In reply to SAmaster

    Yeah but the WF is represented by the twin fox in Menagerie. All Ghira knows now is through what they tell him, so former chief or not, as long as he doesn't leave Kuo Kuana he won't have any idea what's going on.

  • Blue-Rose-89

    Blue-Rose-89

    #33570711 - 1 year ago

    Did we ever learn why Ghira stepped down as the leader of the White Fang?

  • SAmaster

    SAmaster

    #33570722 - 1 year ago

    In reply to MKLN

    Remember until recently they had the internet.

  • sataness

    sataness FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    #33570732 - 1 year ago

    In reply to Blue-Rose-89

    One of the Albain twins said something to the effect that he stepped down to become chieftain. I imagine wrangling the organisation of all of Menagerie as well as WF would be faaar too many responsibilities for most people to want to take on.


    In reply to SAmaster

    Except they might not have. Seeing as Menagerie isn't considered a Kingdom, it may well be that they don't have CCT infrastructure.

  • HunterBlaine

    HunterBlaine FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    #33570742 - 1 year ago

    In reply to sataness


    The Vytal tournament was broadcast there though wasn't it? Kali says they saw what happened to Vale

  • sataness

    sataness FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    #33570754 - 1 year ago

    In reply to HunterBlaine

    Good point! I stand corrected. 

  • revanninja

    revanninja FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold One who is judged by the

    #33570757 - 1 year ago

    In reply to HunterBlaine

    Except that is tv broadcasting and may not be internet.


    We in fact do not know they even HAVE internet there is no reference to it and we dont see them looking things up via their scrolls.

    And TV can get broadcasted MUCH easier then internet.


    As for it still doesnt mean as much as you think. 

    White Fang attacked train 100s dead.

    While it is true we attacked the train it was not with intent to hurt anyone only reclaim Dust mined by our brothers but saddly the guards opened fire and while defending themselves the conductor was killed which caused the train to derail. Its tragedy as we seeked only the dust.


    Its called spin people its not hard to do especially when one already thinks the media is going to report the worst and not have a clear picture.


    Especially if they are using Adam as a scapegoat like they did in fact try to do.


    Also as the blacksmith said Signal was shotty even before the towers went down. So we dont know if them getting signal is at all normal or not we already know there is issues.


    Plus rebroadcasting or videos can also handle them seeing it without getting the actual tv.

  • mkln

    mkln

    #33570762 - 1 year ago

    In reply to SAmaster

    In ep1, the chief of the first village we see says that before Beacon tower felled, the connection was already pretty bad, and that's on Arima between three CCT towers. Menagerie is really far from any CCT towers, so connection might be bad as well (or even worse). And Ghira trusted the fox twins so maybe he didn't even bother to check it out, since he seems like a busy man and certainly has a lot of other things to do.


    (Sorry Revanninja I didn't see you had said the same thing as me about the transmission system.)